tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.comments2009-09-23T00:13:51.344-05:00Amir's MusingsAmir Haquehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-67222674711106256362009-09-23T00:13:51.344-05:002009-09-23T00:13:51.344-05:00IMPORTANT: NADRA HAS DISCONTINUED THE ONLINE APPLI...IMPORTANT: NADRA HAS DISCONTINUED THE ONLINE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR NICOP. YOU WILL HAVE TO NOW APPLY THRU YOUR LOCAL PAKISTANI EMBASSY IN THE COUNTRY OF YOUR RESIDENCE.Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-67445579500989302802009-09-22T23:48:47.216-05:002009-09-22T23:48:47.216-05:00Hello Amir,
Great website, I just like to know tha...Hello Amir,<br />Great website, I just like to know that can I apply for my whole family at the same time? none of us have it at this time, we are looking to travel in Feb, 2010 to Karachi..Please advice.<br />Thanks<br />Aatif Hussain<br />Broker associate<br />Orange county, CaliforniaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02013397515066589881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-51381744488040562032009-09-08T11:09:46.685-05:002009-09-08T11:09:46.685-05:00The nadra.gov.pk website does not have any links o...The nadra.gov.pk website does not have any links on the left (unlike your screenshots), can you still apply for NICOP online? Even the PDF form for NICOP application is not accessible (error: 403 forbidden).Waqashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00523005563937332645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-24690151758867193992009-06-02T11:13:36.346-05:002009-06-02T11:13:36.346-05:00Najeeb,
Yep, I got to know about it recently as we...Najeeb,<br />Yep, I got to know about it recently as well. A blog post linked below says (see 'Comments' section) it was due to 'Credit Card Fraud', seems possible though not verified. http://smacula.blogspot.com/2009/01/nicop-overseas-pakistani-card.html .. If correct, it's another proof of the ingenuity of our fellow Pakistanis.Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-29661543356040436442009-06-02T10:06:12.813-05:002009-06-02T10:06:12.813-05:00Dear Amir: Thanks for your great efforts and spend...Dear Amir: Thanks for your great efforts and spending your time in helping out others (out of the way) especially providing links for contact info/more info.<br /><br />I just read the following from Nadra’s ‘Apply Online’ web page (http://www.nadra.gov.pk/apponline.html) i.e. "NICOP/POC Online Application Service is Closed Permanently". Furthermore, the same web page has a dead link for 'Apply Online'. <br /><br />If the NICOP/POC service is closed permanently, I am wondering why the most Pakistani consulates/embassies still asking to apply online? And why still Nadra’s web-site has links/info about how to apply online and what is required to apply online? I guess lack of communication; I believe now it’s over four weeks they closed the online service. <br /><br />Last but not the least, why the good online service is closed PERMANENTLY, is it online security/ privacy issues or government red tape? Just wondering????Najeebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-63362650748544065742009-04-23T23:44:00.000-05:002009-04-23T23:44:00.000-05:00Adnanq,
Yep, you are right, that's the page, the f...Adnanq,<br />Yep, you are right, that's the page, the first one with your name and other important particulars.Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-82164282460415372022009-04-21T23:49:00.000-05:002009-04-21T23:49:00.000-05:00I have one quick question. WHen we scan the passpo...I have one quick question. WHen we scan the passport personal info page, is that the one with my name and father's name and my CNIC #? So i do'nt need to scan the second page which has my pakistan home address, my picture and thumb imression and date of expiry?<br /><br />adnanqAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-90475565202936444502009-04-21T22:58:00.000-05:002009-04-21T22:58:00.000-05:00Thank you Amir for the useful info. I was very exc...Thank you Amir for the useful info. I was very excited about registering online on NADRA website today but when i clicked on the NICOP link, it says that they are temporarily closed for online NICOP application. I will keep on checking everyday..<br /><br />Adnan QAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-39362720287438776552009-04-17T11:06:00.000-05:002009-04-17T11:06:00.000-05:00No, there is no separate place/section where you s...No, there is no separate place/section where you specify your delivery preferences. They deliver it to your 'Present Address' as you can see under 'Addr. (Present/Permanent Address)' section in my blog post. Take a look at the screenshot there, at the bottom of that they are talking about 'Home Delivery'. So, yes, its implied that you want your cards delivered at your 'Present Address', which is most probably going to be your home address as it establishes your residency in a particular country and thus they are talking about which countries they can deliver the cards to and the ones where they can't deliver.Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-85989429045941705102009-04-17T01:09:00.000-05:002009-04-17T01:09:00.000-05:00Oh thank you for posting this stuff! its great! ho...Oh thank you for posting this stuff! its great! however, i was wondering, is there a separate option where you pick home delivery, or do they automatically assume home delivery when u fill out ur home address?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-4235488007696429172009-03-09T19:47:00.000-05:002009-03-09T19:47:00.000-05:00Irfan,You can just write her name in your own hand...Irfan,<BR/>You can just write her name in your own hand writing on a piece of paper and then scan it and upload it in that field. That's what I did and had no issues. Though when my daughter's NICOP arrived, the signature field was empty (left blank).Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-27742295638398503342009-03-08T11:32:00.000-05:002009-03-08T11:32:00.000-05:00Great information and very well explained. One qui...Great information and very well explained. One quick questions: I'm applying NICOP for my newly born daugther. What do I upload in the signature image field. I understand the thumb expression has to be hers but what about signature. I guess it's not a required thing for child application.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-14995984762795788692009-02-26T02:17:00.000-06:002009-02-26T02:17:00.000-06:00Let me tell all of u my experience with nadra. I a...Let me tell all of u my experience with nadra. I applied online for nicop 3 weeks ago. First of all it took 3 days to process payment and stuff during this time i called them twice and request them to get this form done as soon as possible. I got it approved by QOC after 10 time calling them and they send to data verfication. It took all the time in the world i called every day every department of nadra. I find out that there is system is down from last one week. Then when system came back they send it for printing. I called printing department the person who is head of department told me. Its not so easy to print card it takes time first we have to recive and then print and then leminate and then check if it looks good or not and then quality check and then final control check and then we send it to dispatch this card and this process will take atleast 5 to 10 days. A simple thing printing take 5 to 10 days. The worse department of nadra is printing. They r way to rude. They will act like u r asking them for money. Guys seriously goverment employees all over the world are same. THE ALL R LAZY. Now i have flight one day after i get my us passport. A Terrible experience with nadra. Here are some number for u guys.<BR/>Information department for checking status:<BR/>01192-51-9208606<BR/>01192-51-9204828<BR/>01192-51-90392915<BR/>01192-51-90391642<BR/>01192-51-90391117 complaint department<BR/>CEO and other Biggies<BR/>01192-51-9215555<BR/>01192-51-90391715<BR/>01192-51-90391915<BR/>Printing Department<BR/>01192-51-90391354<BR/>01192-51-90391355<BR/>01192-51-9204412 Never Call This guy.<BR/>Take Care PeoPleS. Wish Me LucK.<BR/>Allah HafizAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-40010794094062831762009-02-26T02:04:00.000-06:002009-02-26T02:04:00.000-06:00Good work brother. One thing i want to correct in ...Good work brother. One thing i want to correct in ur blog. Which is delivery timings. DHL takes 3 business days from nadra to here. I confirmed this information with dhl and CEO of nadra. The only ways u get next day delivery from dhl when u have a buisness mail or something otherwise is not possible. One more thing nadra system doesn't update everyday so u can't ur dispatch process took 7 days it might took 4 days and rest time spent on delivering to u.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-86928568390449832182009-01-12T23:39:00.000-06:002009-01-12T23:39:00.000-06:00You will need to contact the Pakistani Consulate i...You will need to contact the Pakistani Consulate in Toronto somehow (full contact info is here: http://www.pakmission.ca/toronto_consulate.htm) to get more info on charges and processing time. On this page: http://www.pakmission.ca/consularservices.htm, they have listed all the processes with forms and requirements. I would say let's make sure you have a letter from your husband allowing you to take your children to Pakistan on your trip, that won't hurt, will surely help if someone asks for it. I have talked to different people in Pakistani consulates and embassy here in US, I was able to talk to them in Urdu and English both, they answered my questions as well. You can try the consulates in other Canadian cities as well (their contact info is listed here: http://www.pakmission.ca/contactus.htm), if you are having problems in getting hold of someone in Toronto consulate. Hope this helps!Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-36854621430732559842009-01-10T20:17:00.000-06:002009-01-10T20:17:00.000-06:00thanks alot for all the possible options. I serio...thanks alot for all the possible options. I seriously was gonna get the visas.. i mean one costs 100 dollars in Canada, so another 200 dollar but today i jus came to ask if i could endorse them on my Pakistani passport and i got the answer, so here is the situation now 25th is my fight and i need to renew my pakistani passport now and get them endorsed plus get my husband's name on it so how lond does it take or should i go with the visas?? and plus do i need a letter from my husband regarding me taking the babies'coz he is not going, plus is there a 20 dollars charge for renewing the pakistan passport so would it be 20 dollars for each thing that i do i mean endorsment of childern, renewing, endorsment of husband's name?? or is it jus one charge??? i mean if i don't mind paying for each thing even if i have to 'coz its way better than paying 200 dollars for visas and its valid for 3 to six months.. i wish i knew all this from before.. i paid for my nicop for no reason, this toronto consalte is not helping at all. they won't answer any of your questions properly. Please answer soon so i could get my stuff done on Monday and get over this tension. And Do i have enough time to get the pakistani passport?? thanx alotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-19191907565638944192009-01-09T05:14:00.000-06:002009-01-09T05:14:00.000-06:00I guess she can endorse children on her own Pakist...I guess she can endorse children on her own Pakistani passport(if she has one) that make them Paksitani national hence not requiring visa at Pakistan port!<BR/><BR/>I applied for 3 NICOPs including our son online, two of the cards arrived within 2 weeks, but NICOP for my son taking forever, lot of chase up emails, chat, calls, apparently there was technical thing that stopped changing its status further from "Data Entry Completed" with my chase up calls they changed the status to printed somehow now but hasnt posted it yet! so i have no option left but to get visa for him on comming trip to Pak, visa fee here is uk for Dual nationals is almost half if someone has pakistani passport even an expired one, I paid £15 for my son visa and got it on the same day. <BR/><BR/>If nicop arrive, well and good otherwise i have visa in case for him.<BR/><BR/>hope this also help others. here, but Amir good guide you have written, well done!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-37916194222334213652009-01-07T14:03:00.000-06:002009-01-07T14:03:00.000-06:00As I see here are your options (I am not a lawyer ...As I see here are your options (I am not a lawyer or claim to be an expert in these legal matters, so take it with this disclaimer and thus of course you bear the full resposibility of your actions, I am just trying to be helpful):<BR/><BR/>1. You can apply to change the marital status of your husband on his NICOP. The steps are the same as in my blog, just choose the 'Change' option in dropdown when you get to the "App. St. (Application Station/Type)" step. I have mentioned this in my blog there. After the status change, they will automatically process your daughters' applications for NICOP. You can send them an e-mail as well as a follow up at: nicop@nadra.gov.pk to verify this option. It can take 2 weeks max or may be more depending on the complexity of your case and efficiency of NADRA staff handling your request. Cost would be US $36 total (NICOP, Shipping & Credit Card Processing charges) .. or ..<BR/><BR/>2. Get the Pakistani Visa stamped on your daughters' passports. Duration: 5 business days, Cost: 120 per visa, a total of 240, plus mail cost as well which you will have to pay. They have not listed any urgent Visa option here: http://www.pakistan-embassy.org/consa8.php, so call them to ask about that.<BR/><BR/>3. The option which you are thinking about is NOT possible legally. You cannot take American Citizens out of US without showing the proof that you can go to anotehr country, in your case, the airlines ticketing/booking agent will ask you to show the NICOP for your daughters or Pakistani Visa on their respective passports. Without which you won't get tickets for your daughters to board the aircraft. Similarly at any airport in Pakistan after your landing, the FIA Inspector will also ask for the same documents, you can run into problems there as well by not having a NICOP or Pakistani Visa on their passports. BUT first of all you won't be able to leave US without these documents. So as I see it, you have only 2 options as described above.<BR/><BR/>Hope this helps!Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-62314796521518795792009-01-07T13:19:00.000-06:002009-01-07T13:19:00.000-06:00I am going to Pakistan soon with my twin daughters...I am going to Pakistan soon with my twin daughters and applied for their nicops in start of December, i received mine within two weeks time and thought same will happen for them but it didn't work coz my husband's status in his nicop was single plus one of my babies docs are not too clear and someone helped me do it but that friend left for pak and i am in too much problem 'coz i won't have any place to live and still didn't get my babies nicops. What is the quickest way to get it or how long will it take to get their visas now?? i mean i applied for nicops thinking that i am spending 100 dollars for both and now i will end up spending more 300 dollars .. seriously no one can imagine what am i going through right now..i even spoke to farhad jhangir and he was tellling me the same thing i mean common .. its nothing for him... please help me solve this problem and because i can't even go take their pics again n do all the paper work for visa 'coz i only have 20 days left to do alot more stuff .. i mean taking care of twins all myself and paper work and the list is never ending..and if i decide to gp without NICOPS ( i mean i have registered them with pakistani embassy already and somewhere on the interent said that if i have registered them with paksitani embassy i do not need nicop( which is a lie but i m jus beleiving it for no reason) what will happen?? i mean i have nicop and i have their form #s and everthing ... should i take that risk going to pakistan without visas or nicops or i shouldn't ?? but i think thats my last option in this though situation..please reply sooner<BR/>thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-66912900910162311932008-11-25T16:03:00.000-06:002008-11-25T16:03:00.000-06:00It is very helpful for people going to apply for N...It is very helpful for people going to apply for NICOP. I wanted to know the time interval from dispatch to delivery.I got my answer. Thanks for your time and efforts. <BR/>Fareed (NED Grad 1999)<BR/>CalgaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-54710982420778568572008-11-18T23:46:00.000-06:002008-11-18T23:46:00.000-06:00Amir bhai... it's K. Shar and AfatVery interesting...Amir bhai... it's K. Shar and Afat<BR/>Very interesting and detailed information. I really appreciate your effort. <BR/>One correction the NADRA's call center number is 0092-51-111-786-100 with area code 51. <BR/>The call agents are very helpful and try to answer your questions very patiently.<BR/>I am amazed by such kind of fast and efficient service in Pakistan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-26096556633606427792008-09-24T23:37:00.000-05:002008-09-24T23:37:00.000-05:00Are you sure about calling NADRA's call center num...Are you sure about calling NADRA's call center number from the US? I've been trying to dial "011-92-111-786-100" but keep getting an error message ("your international call could not be completed as dialed; please check the number").<BR/><BR/>Perhaps this number isn't accessible from the US?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-83521875482410670102008-09-16T21:54:00.000-05:002008-09-16T21:54:00.000-05:00Right when we needed it.This has been very helpful...Right when we needed it.<BR/>This has been very helpful.<BR/>Thank you!<BR/>Former Irving, TX resident.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-51745383186935839552008-09-16T10:46:00.000-05:002008-09-16T10:46:00.000-05:00Stage 1 took one day, it was 'Data Entry Compl...Stage 1 took one day, it was 'Data Entry Completed & Approved' on the day of submission. Stage 2 took most of the time, it was 'Printed' after 12 days of submission. Stage 3 took the rest (7 days) when it was actually 'Dispatched'. I got it the next day after it was dispatched or shipped thru DHL.Amir Haquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536249099153587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2685451897658610959.post-35742593832288234832008-09-16T05:15:00.000-05:002008-09-16T05:15:00.000-05:00Thanks a lot...really helpedFormer Dallas resident...Thanks a lot...really helped<BR/><BR/>Former Dallas resident now living in SydneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com